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Post  EarthsAngel on Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:39 am

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Tuesday, 23 February 2010
do you want to become an MP?


We want MPs who have real experience of life and are independently minded.

Any elected person must however support the issues highlighted in their manifesto if that is what they have been elected on.

We have therefore put together a manifesto of topics that the electorate want to see enacted but which the traditional parties do not support. Our MPs will enable legislation on these proposals but they will only become law if an authorising referendum of the people endorses them. This gives power right back to the people.



We want to give the people the opportunity to make these things happen:






· Holding a referendum on the status of the UK within the EU
· Setting up an English Parliament on English matters
· Reducing the number of MPs by a third (from 650 to 433)
· Changing Commons elections to proportional representation
· Requiring referendums on petition by 5% of the electorate
· Limiting government borrowing to 10% of expenditure
· Protecting bank customer deposits from casino banking
· Limiting benefits to 80% of the after tax minimum wage
· Sentencing violent criminals to 'army style' punishment
· Limiting UK troops in Afghanistan to the NATO average
· Requiring private medical insurance for non-EU citizens
· Establishing a 10 year residence requirement for UK Citizenship
· Allowing state schools to opt out from local authority control
· Requiring stores to let customers leave excess packaging





Do you agree that the people have a right to be consulted on these issues?



Amazingly neither of the two main traditional parties does. If you believe in these ideas then go to the Jury Team website and help us to make them a reality.

Let's all work together to make the changes this country desperately needs.





Vote for change or stop complaining.





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Re: OLD HOLBORN

Post  EarthsAngel on Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:14 am

“Labour needs to ensure that the next election is not seen as a referendum on the government,”


Just to remind us what 13 years of power can do (cut out and keep edition):


Ballot Boxes are interfered with

Voting registers go missing

The Police can kill innocent people and get away with it

The state can kill people and get away with it

You can be put in prison for 42 days on pure suspicion

You can be put in prison indefinitely on the word of a politician

The State can torture people

Your children are monitored at School by Political Officers

Their behaviour is logged on a State database for their entire lives

Your innocent fingerprints, iris scans and biometrics are held by the State

You do not have the right to remain silent

You are watched on 4 million CCTV cameras

You may not photograph the Police


The media is controlled by the State


You do not have the right to protest peacefully

Curfews exist for entire communities

Your travel movements are logged and monitored

Who you vote for is logged and monitored

Your shopping habits are studied and logged by the State

Your emails and telephone conversations are recorded by the State

Your passport can be withdrawn at the whim of the State

Government agencies can use lie detector tests on you.

- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain

- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of-work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty...
- Child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- The ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned because it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10 Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied.


New Labour. Stamping on the faces of the many, not just the few. Forever.

PS “A future fair for all” is an anagram of “Our fearful fat liar”

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Post  EarthsAngel on Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:21 am

"Britain's body politic has been shocked to the core by this week's election of two British National Party candidates to the European Parliament.
Their success is described as 'the ultimate protest vote'. It has been attributed to public disgust with MPs of all parties following the expenses scandal.

Few, if any, Parliamentarians of any persuasion admit what is self-evident to the rest of us: that many thousands of voters back the BNP because it opposes further mass immigration to Britain.
We live in an age and a society allegedly committed to openness as the supreme virtue. Yet our politicians show themselves no more capable of frankness about the massive problems posed by immigration than about the future of an insolvent NHS, the absence of any sensible energy strategy for the future and the gradual collapse of pension provision which will soon start hitting the state sector as well.

In the face of deafening silence about migration from Tories, Labour and LibDems alike, some desperate people vent their bitterness by backing the only group they think willing to speak up for them, even though its character and attitudes are repulsive.

Polls show that most BNP voters are male and working class. More than one-third of them are manual workers. This means that they live among migrants, in a way that the liberal middle class does not.

Some 77 per cent of BNP voters believe that white people in Britain are now victims of discrimination. Many are former Labour voters and think their old party has betrayed them.

Only about half of BNP supporters explicitly admit to being racists. The rest are simply people who believe that their traditional communities are being destroyed, jobs lost or put at risk, by uncontrolled immigration.

Before considering how much of this is true, we should acknowledge that the perception is now widespread. It extends far beyond those who brought themselves to vote for the BNP.

The main parties, and especially the Tories, believe that by saying little or nothing about immigration, they escape the charge from the Left that they are promoting racial hatred, going back to their bad old Powellite ways.

Instead, however, there seems a powerful argument that they are thus failing in their duty as an opposition, to lay bare the failure of government policy.

They ignore a matter which deeply troubles voters. Some 80 per cent of people questioned in a YouGov poll for the independent think-tank MigrationWatch say that they are 'concerned' or 'very concerned' about levels of immigration.

Many thoughtful, educated people who would not dream of voting for the BNP nonetheless daily use such phrases as 'It's not our country any more', and 'I don't feel I belong in the place where I grew up'.

Only a tiny handful of people, notably the brave and impeccably liberal figures of Labour MP Frank Field and Equality and Human Rights Commission chairman Trevor Phillips, have shown themselves willing publicly to acknowledge the huge social and political strains which immigration imposes on our society.

Scarcely one of Britain's mainstream politicians is anywhere to be seen in a debate of vital concern for our national future.

The figures show clearly that this Labour Government has sanctioned and promoted a vast increase in migration, and thus in Britain's population, without the most tenuous mandate for its policy from the nation.

For 20 years before Tony Blair became Prime Minister, immigration averaged 54,000 a year. It then rose steeply to 97,000 in 1999. In 2007, the last year for which figures are available, 333,000 more foreign nationals entered Britain than left.

In addition, there are estimated to be 725,000 illegal immigrants in the country, 518,000 of these in London.

On the Government's own, almost certainly understated, numbers, our population will pass 70 million by 2028. It could reach 80 million in the course of the century.

We are the most overcrowded country in Europe, save Malta. Some 24 per cent of all births in this country are to foreign-born mothers.

Asylum-seekers now account for only 10 per cent of newcomers - though still 30,000 a year. Nor, contrary to popular myth, are most migrants East Europeans, the fabled Polish plumbers. Only 87,000 of the 2007 intake came from Eastern Europe, less than a quarter of the total.

Most new arrivals come from the Third World, at a rate which is increasing the national population by almost one per cent every two years.

How has this state of affairs come about? First, since 1997 the Government has quadrupled the number of work permits issued to foreigners. After five years here, permit-holders have a right to apply for permanent residence.

Second, Labour greatly eased restrictions governing the rights of anybody married to a resident to enter Britain. Numbers of those entering with a certificate of marriage, real or fixed for the purpose, have doubled.

Finally, there are students - 360,000 a year. There are no effective checks, first on whether they come to attend bona fide places of learning, and second upon ensuring their return home after completing their courses.

There were dramatic revelations last month about the major industry of phoney 'colleges' which teach nothing and exist solely to enable economic migrants, at a price, to enter Britain.
David Blunkett, as Home Secretary, was one of the villains of the piece. He is one of many New Labour standard-bearers who both proclaim the value of large-scale immigration to this country, and greatly eased the path of those seeking to come here.

In 2004, he asserted defiantly: 'Migrants don't just come to fill jobs - they also create jobs, helping our economy grow and giving us a more vibrant culture.'

These arguments were brutally dismissed last year in a report by the House of Lords' Economic Committee, one of the very few political bodies to have dared to conduct a serious review of policy. The peers concluded that, contrary to New Labour propaganda, immigration has had 'little or no impact' on the economic well-being of Britain and offers 'insignificant' benefits to the existing UK population.

The argument that we need masses of immigrants to compensate for our ageing domestic workforce is nullified by the reality - obvious to all except Labour ministers - that immigrants, too, get old and become pensioners.
The social impact of migrants on existing communities is enormous, of course. Almost all choose to settle in England rather than the Celtic fringes. Anyone who walks the streets of London or any major English city today hears 20 languages spoken as readily as English.

This may be 'richly culturally diverse', as New Labour-speak puts the matter. But it causes many English people to feel deeply disorientated in their own home towns.

Because we are vastly less assertive than the Americans in imposing our own culture on migrants, many newcomers resist learning English.

Today, there are 300 primary schools in England where more than 70 per cent of pupils - nearly half a million children - use English only as a second language.

It is unlikely the virtuous liberals of any major political party send their own children to such schools. I doubt that they would be happy if they had to do so.

It is sometimes suggested that migrants offer useful cheap labour. But there is no really cheap labour in a welfare state. Each new arrival represents an additional burden on policing, health, education and infrastructure which must be paid for. Many police forces have expressed concern about the pressures and costs imposed by the huge influx of migrants.

Police officers in Cambridgeshire, for instance, must deal with cases in almost 100 languages. The county's translation costs have risen from £220,000 in 2002-3 to £800,000 in 2006-7. Its drink-drive figures show a 17-fold increase in arrests of foreigners.

Of the 94,200 people predicted to move into Cambridgeshire by 2016, 69,000 are expected to be foreigners. And this is just one county.

There are also heavy health costs - which seem especially relevant in a week when new figures show the NHS heading for a major financial crisis by 2011.

A few years ago, tuberculosis was all but extinct in Britain. Today, there is a striking increase in reported cases, 65 per cent of them involving patients not born in Britain, with 21 per cent Africanborn. Hepatitis B cases have almost doubled in six years, to 325,000, 96 per cent of these involving patients born outside the UK.

Even the Government halfheartedly and unconvincingly acknowledges that too many migrants are coming to Britain. Yet nothing effective is being done to check to the flow.

Ministers have committed themselves to what they call 'an Australian-style points system' for assessing candidates for entry. Yet this will lack the indispensable feature of Australian policy - a defined upper limit on overall numbers.

Scrutiny of visa applications at British embassies abroad has become less rather than more stringent, because much of the work is now handled by local rather than British staff.

The Government lies again and again about its real commitment to address immigration. This is partly because it fears to tangle with its own Left-wingers, who are viscerally committed to the ideal of open borders.

The Government's carelessness on this issue can scarcely fail to be influenced by the fact that ethic minorities vote pretty solidly for Labour.

In some constituencies, socalled 'community leaders' of minorities exercise significant influence, because they are able to deliver a block vote at elections which can amount to 2,000 or more ballots.

The Tories have raised the prospect of introducing a specified upper limit on migrants, but have given no hint of what this might be. Most Conservative front-benchers maintain a trappist silence on an issue which the leadership fears can be used by Labour to raise once more the spectre of themselves as 'the nasty party'.

In a pitifully mute Commons, one of the boldest and most reasonable initiatives came last September from Labour MP Frank Field and Tory Nicholas Soames, who together published a pamphlet calling for a policy of 'balanced migration' - allowing into Britain each year no more people than leave - in 2007, some 96,000.

'Our concern,' they wrote, 'is not the principle of immigration, but its scale. This rate of arrival is 25 times higher than any previous influx of immigration in nearly 1,000 years of our nation's history. Nor is this influx due to globalisation. It is largely the result of government policies.'

Yet there is no evidence that, since the publication of Field's and Soames's report, the Conservatives are any more wiling than Labour to grasp the issue with conviction.

Sir Andrew Green of MigrationWatch, whose relentless, but calm and objective, barrage of statistics is often criticised but never plausibly disputed, says: 'The Tories decline to discuss immigration at all. The LibDems have no policy except for an attack on illegal immigration. The Government gives an appearance of activity, but has not yet taken effective action.

'We have been warning until we are blue in the face that if the major parties fail to address this issue, extremists would start to gain public support.'

And thus it was, this week, the repulsive BNP gained more votes in the European elections than Sir Oswald Mosley's fascists dreamed of in the 1930s Depression.

Whether Britain's mainstream politicians admit it or not, a major cause of public disillusionment is their bland, frankly craven refusal to address an issue about which a vast number of British people care deeply: the perceived alienation and transformation of their own society.

The latest YouGov poll shows that many voters feel 'insecure' in their own homeland. How could they not? The BNP will only be erased as a force from Britain's political landscape, as we should all hope that it will be, when those parties which seriously aspire to govern Britain present coherent, realistic immigration policies; when they address an issue about which much of the country cares more than the recession, health, education, Europe - the cultural identity and population stability of the island in which we live. "

Max Hasting in the Daily Mail.

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Post  El Guapo on Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:07 am

- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of-work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty...
- Child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- The ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned because it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10 Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied.


Shocked Shocked

When you list all the cockups like that it does leave you pretty speechless!

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Re: OLD HOLBORN

Post  Chelseaboy on Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:44 am

Excellent article by max hastings.

In so many ways he has hit the nail on the head, so to speak.

For me the more and more it goes on, the influx to this country of immigrants the more you tend to say to your self why?

Ok we know there are country s with problems were people are being persecuted in there homelands, were there have been wars.

Britain has taken more than enough now,
but the EU leave all border controls open through all countrys leading to the uk.

Our health service, education system and police service ( not sure its a service anymore ) more like traffic wardens are at breaking point.

our schools are having to deal with children with so many different languages, like wise the health service.

The multicultural experiment ( if thats what it was) has imploded.

We don't have areas of diverse cultures as they say,

were ever immigrants settle in numbers the word gets round and the same race of immigrants will head for that place,
were they will feel comfortable with the people and language around them.

That is not a diverse community , it is colonization.

More and more places in Britain are going this way, Bradford as a prime example.

Look at all the seaside towns,
Margate, ramsgate, dover those places were more and more B&B's are being closed down and converted into flats to house immigrants.

The labour government have opened our doors over the last 12 years to guarantee themselves votes from immigrants,

but in doing so they are tearing the very fabric of this nation apart.

More and more people are going to look at the BNP because none of the main parties will listen to the voters,

conservatives are to shit scared to have stronger policies regarding immigration and i mean stronger to the point of closing the border because labour will brand them racist.

Look at Michael howard when he was leader a few years back, he said he wanted much more stronger controls and to beef up detention centers and fast track failed asylum seekers back to the country of origin.

He was lambasted and smeared by the labour government as a racist, even tho Michael howard is an immigrant.

More people will start to look at the BNP , only because they have been completely disillusioned and lost faith in the 3 main party's.
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Post  EarthsAngel on Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:12 am

Great post CB.

I think if the Tories had the balls to speak out against Immigration and all the other crap people have had to endure under the criminals, Nu Liebore, they would be trusted a little more by the Electorate.

STOP Immigration.

Drastically change the benefits system
Stop benefits for Immigrant who have never paid into the system and never will.

Get out of the EU

Reduce the Government by at least half.

Get rid of the house of Lords

Defeat Islam

Leave Afghanistan

Get rid of Quangos

Most Importantly, get rid of Nu lLieBore!

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