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Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  El Guapo on Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:45 am

By immigrant I mean newly arrived people from any country rather than second or third generation immigrants.

Is it right that notions of fairness and equality are extended to these people?

Why should people already settled in Britain contribute towards benefits and welfare for people that have contributed nothing?

Should newly arrived immigrants be placed on a points system whereby they gain access to certain public services only after a set amount of tax and national insurance contributions?

On the other hand, would any difference in treatment only serve to worsen social divides and tension? If so, why?

Please discuss and place your vote.

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  EarthsAngel on Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:05 am

Yes of course they should be on a points system, why should hardotworking people contribute to their benefits, they have not contributed a penny and probably never will!! They should have to work and contribute for a minimum of five years before they are entitled to ANY benefits. They should not be allowed in unless they can financially support themselves. I have nothing against any Immigrants who works and contributes.

I couldn't care less if they get upset because they can't sponge off the tax payer, if he moans, send him home.


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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  Guest on Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:41 am

Ditto Angel, why should they get homes gas and electric paid for mobile phones and cars aswell as benifits. where we have the elderly dying cause their too poor to heat themselves, its ruddy disgusting what workers have to put up with .

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  dolly on Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:38 pm

I agree completely that there should be a points system. I voted yes...
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  SAINT on Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:08 am

I personally think immigrants should be treated differently, every migrant which arrives into the country is treated like ROYALTY thus placing the English as second class citizens.

As many immigrants arrive from 3rd world countries, whatever condition of accomodation given would definately be a bonus, like a mansion in many cases and yet they still moan.

English citizens are given the left over housing from what the migrants have taken leaving the shitholes and slums for the English, shouldn't the English be given first choice?

That's why there is so much resentment from the indigenous people of the country.

I have nothing against any migrants but absolutely LOATHE them being treated better than us.

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  Jimmy Saville on Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:22 am

I guess my vote will be of no surprise!

Immigrants are coming here because word of mouth has said that we're a soft touch.....Paid for houses, benefits being paid towards children not even living in this country!!

Someone said....Our own elderly are dying because they cant heat their homes in the winter, whilst immigrant families live in heated, large home for Free!!

It's about time we started looking after our own.

Shut the doors.........put the money into training programs for British kids, put the money into helping our elderly who have worked all their lives to contribute to Britain and it's culture!


Sod PC...........This is Britain and it belongs to the British!!
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  SAINT on Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:25 am

Winston wrote:I guess my vote will be of no surprise!

Immigrants are coming here because word of mouth has said that we're a soft touch.....Paid for houses, benefits being paid towards children not even living in this country!!

Someone said....Our own elderly are dying because they cant heat their homes in the winter, whilst immigrant families live in heated, large home for Free!!

It's about time we started looking after our own.

Shut the doors.........put the money into training programs for British kids, put the money into helping our elderly who have worked all their lives to contribute to Britain and it's culture!


Sod PC...........This is Britain and it belongs to the British!!

Totally agree 100% Win, well said!!! Very Happy Very Happy

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Post  chelseaz on Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:53 am

an interesting observation ....a romanian stands outside the supermarket opposite everyday selling "the big issue".his wife covers the other supermarket down the road.my point being,i thought the big issue was meant for people living on the street or trying to get a foothold back into society.this couple have a flat and all the benefits that go with it,provided by us,also how can they afford the car they drive home from work every night?????
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  SAINT on Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:27 am

chelseaz wrote:an interesting observation ....a romanian stands outside the supermarket opposite everyday selling "the big issue".his wife covers the other supermarket down the road.my point being,i thought the big issue was meant for people living on the street or trying to get a foothold back into society.this couple have a flat and all the benefits that go with it,provided by us,also how can they afford the car they drive home from work every night?????

Exactly chel, it angers me big time.

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  Rockstar. on Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:30 am


Why should people already settled in Britain contribute towards benefits and welfare for people that have contributed nothing?

If it is all about people having to pay in the pot before taking in benefits or any sort of welfare then all welfare concerning children should be stopped !

What is the surety that these scrounging children would pay in the pot ?

Even an unemployed 19 year old who has not put anything into the pot shouldn't be given any welfare !

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  Rockstar. on Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:33 am

chelseaz wrote:an interesting observation ....a romanian stands outside the supermarket opposite everyday selling "the big issue".his wife covers the other supermarket down the road.my point being,i thought the big issue was meant for people living on the street or trying to get a foothold back into society.this couple have a flat and all the benefits that go with it,provided by us,also how can they afford the car they drive home from work every night?????

Kind of off topic but it needs to be said..

I have read the same above story/text on SOL a couple of years or maybe a year ago.. I just cannot recall who posted it .. You claim to be new to SOL and here..Perhaps there is more than that meets the eye.. No

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  El Guapo on Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:29 am

Rockstar. wrote:

Why should people already settled in Britain contribute towards benefits and welfare for people that have contributed nothing?

If it is all about people having to pay in the pot before taking in benefits or any sort of welfare then all welfare concerning children should be stopped !

What is the surety that these scrounging children would pay in the pot ?

Even an unemployed 19 year old who has not put anything into the pot shouldn't be given any welfare !

And why not? It's really not that absurd a concept. Many other european countries adopt a credits system. This idea of there not being any work is simply a load of bollocks. Walk into any temping agency and any person can find work. The problem here is unemployed people thinking certain jobs are "beneath them," and it's high time they learnt a bit of humility.

Your argument regarding children is nonsense. You can't expect a child to make contributions if they are not lawfully entitled to work in the first place. In any event, child benefits are not really the problem we face. Far more money is wasted on able bodied adults who simply refuse to work.

I'm an immigrant myself. My passport says Espana on the front and not United Kingdom. This isn't an attack on immgrants but perhaps a necessary measure to take to ensure the well being of citizens supersedes that of non citizens. As an immigrant, who incidentally works, I certainly wouldn't have any objection.


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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  El Guapo on Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:33 am

Rockstar. wrote:
chelseaz wrote:an interesting observation ....a romanian stands outside the supermarket opposite everyday selling "the big issue".his wife covers the other supermarket down the road.my point being,i thought the big issue was meant for people living on the street or trying to get a foothold back into society.this couple have a flat and all the benefits that go with it,provided by us,also how can they afford the car they drive home from work every night?????


Kind of off topic but it needs to be said..

I have read the same above story/text on SOL a couple of years or maybe a year ago.. I just cannot recall who posted it .. You claim to be new to SOL and here..Perhaps there is more than that meets the eye.. No


I've read a similar story on Sol too...

And on Jezzas.

And on EoE.

And on Sleeping Dogs.

Omg omg omg! They must be all from one and the same person!!! It's a conspiricy! I'm not exactly sure what the conspiricy is but lets not allow that to get in the way! With irrefutable evidence like this how can one possibly argue?! lol

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  Jimmy Saville on Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:56 am

Immigration is not a totally bad thing.........I do, however feel that Islam is the only faith, Culture, religion, whatever you want to call it! that doesn't fit with any other!!

Therefore I object to Islamic Immigration.....This country does not need it. It is destructive to the British way of life and should be stopped, totally!
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  El Guapo on Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:02 am

I think maybe the problem is that many Muslim followers firmly believe in God first and State second?

Law and order has no place for religion of any kind IMO. It exists to ensure the well being of society as a whole and must be totally impartial and unbiased.

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  Jimmy Saville on Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:38 am

That is an interesting point El...........

Religion is a pompous thing at the best of times, but it does appear that the Islamic religion believes it has a devine right to place itself above the law!
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  DarkLord on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:48 am

No one at all should be able to claim benefits until they have paid into the system & even then there should be a cap as to how much they can take out of the system before they start paying in again.

Quite simply I don't care if the person is born in Bolton or Bangladesh, if you haven't paid into the system then you can't take anything out of the system. I'm sure that would discourage work shy immigrants from coming here. It would also make the work shy nationals buck up their ideas & would make children think twice before having children.......
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  Jimmy Saville on Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:24 am

Fair point DL!!
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Post  chelseaz on Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:44 am

Rockstar. wrote:
chelseaz wrote:an interesting observation ....a romanian stands outside the supermarket opposite everyday selling "the big issue".his wife covers the other supermarket down the road.my point being,i thought the big issue was meant for people living on the street or trying to get a foothold back into society.this couple have a flat and all the benefits that go with it,provided by us,also how can they afford the car they drive home from work every night?????

Kind of off topic but it needs to be said..

I have read the same above story/text on SOL a couple of years or maybe a year ago.. I just cannot recall who posted it .. You claim to be new to SOL and here..Perhaps there is more than that meets the eye.. No
....sorry rockstar this was my own observation...only started going on line about march....rarely visit sol now as there are to many idiots on there.saint invited me on here.ask him if you doubt my word
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  SAINT on Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:12 am

Rockstar. wrote:

Why should people already settled in Britain contribute towards benefits and welfare for people that have contributed nothing?

If it is all about people having to pay in the pot before taking in benefits or any sort of welfare then all welfare concerning children should be stopped !

What is the surety that these scrounging children would pay in the pot ?

Even an unemployed 19 year old who has not put anything into the pot shouldn't be given any welfare !

Very rich coming from an ********* like you ROCK!! You should think yourself lucky, even if you lived in the************************* we are still pumping BILLIONS of ££££ in aid to look after you!


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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  SAINT on Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:16 am

chelseaz wrote:
Rockstar. wrote:
chelseaz wrote:an interesting observation ....a romanian stands outside the supermarket opposite everyday selling "the big issue".his wife covers the other supermarket down the road.my point being,i thought the big issue was meant for people living on the street or trying to get a foothold back into society.this couple have a flat and all the benefits that go with it,provided by us,also how can they afford the car they drive home from work every night?????

Kind of off topic but it needs to be said..

I have read the same above story/text on SOL a couple of years or maybe a year ago.. I just cannot recall who posted it .. You claim to be new to SOL and here..Perhaps there is more than that meets the eye.. No
....sorry rockstar this was my own observation...only started going on line about march....rarely visit sol now as there are to many idiots on there.saint invited me on here.ask him if you doubt my word

Chel.....You don't have to explain to Rockstar he is one of the many ANTI-ENGLISH posters who loathe the country and the indigenous people's views and yet won't fuck off to his motherland country!! He obviously claims benefits or has been given a mansion!

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  EarthsAngel on Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:51 am

Daz, Rocky lives ,in Mumbai, India lol.

In todays papers, a Somalian with wife a seven kids had a five bedroom house in London (probably council) He didn't like the area he was living in so the Local council moved him and his snot gobblers into five bedroom 2 MILLION Mansion in a fancy suburb, the rent..........£8,000 per month!!! This cretin comes from Somalia, the arsehole of the world. He would be lucky if he lived in a shack there, yet he is now living off benefits in a 2 mill house!! wtf is going on there? I thought the Tories were putting a stop to all this disgusting nonsense? Workers will have to work for many more years before they can afford to retire, now we know the reason why...........to keep work shy fukkwits in absolute luxury.

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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  DarkLord on Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:22 am

Actually, Somalia is thought to be the Cradle of Human Life........
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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  SAINT on Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:16 am

SAINT wrote:
Rockstar. wrote:

Why should people already settled in Britain contribute towards benefits and welfare for people that have contributed nothing?

If it is all about people having to pay in the pot before taking in benefits or any sort of welfare then all welfare concerning children should be stopped !

What is the surety that these scrounging children would pay in the pot ?

Even an unemployed 19 year old who has not put anything into the pot shouldn't be given any welfare !

Very rich coming from an ********* like you ROCK!! You should think yourself lucky, even now the *** ***** ******** in which you originate from is still being pumping BILLIONS of ££££ in aid to look after you!

Without predjudice Nel, I don't need someone like you telling me about personal abuse, stating that someone is an IMMIGRANT doesn't express any abuse whatsoever! please enlighten me of why this is classed as abuse?

Secondly, stating that country's like India, Pakistan and country's like that also does not warrant you editing my posts, my views are up to me and would prefer it if you wouldn't interfere in my posts as I would'nt interfere in yours.

Also please enlighten me of this abuse!!!


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Re: Should Immigrants Be Treated Differently?

Post  DarkLord on Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:47 am

Think it may have been the "3rd World Shithole" bit. Was a bit harsh.

Can't see the problem with Immigrant though scratch
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